Thresh Avery
Best Path Inc.
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.01.15 05:42:00 -
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 Originally by: Blazde
I totally am questioning phoney shell alliances like The Five and (as JS LiamElms pointed out) Prime Orbital Systems. Those are the worst. The point is entering the alliance tourney should not be a simple case of paying 1 bil + 500m deposit. Just as entering the Olympics isn't as simple as me declaring my back yard a sovereign state.
It should be for real alliances that are relevant politically & militarily all year round. And no I'm not discriminating against small alliances, or empire alliances, let's have lots of them it makes for good fun and it's a very important channel for them to gain recognition. But there needs to be some minimum criteria. Exactly what I don't know but here's food-for-thought:
Alliance logo submission process
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Only logos from alliances that have been in effect for six months or more and have over 150 active members will be accepted.
CONCORD Makes Revolutionary Statement of Recognition For Alliances as Starbase Components Hit SCC Markets
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In a surprise announcement at 12:00 EVT today Irhes Angireh, Head of CONCORD's Inner Circle, declared CONCORD to be in full official support of the outer rim alliances. Further, she stated that official provision had been made for alliances to, for the first time in history, become recorded entities on the level of nation-states.
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I couldn't agree with this more Blazde!
Out of interest, if it's good enough for CCP to say you can't have an alliance logo submitted unless you have 150 members and were formed over 6 months ago, then why should they be able to participate in an alliance tournament? Aren't their logos accepted because CCP don't view them as serious alliances unless they've been around long enough and have lots of members, therefore they won't waste their graphics department's time editing images for an alliance to disband days later?
Now i know logos aren't a big deal, and i'm not saying they are, but they give an alliance an identity. And the reason people say watching BoB vs Goons in the tournament would be more exciting than Alliance X versus Alliance Y is because of their history and context. Just like England vs Germany when it comes to football! It wouldn't be the same if it was Lithuania vs Mali, even if the game played out just the same.
So i guess you could say, if an alliance hasn't been around for 6 months and doesn't have 40 members or more, they shouldn't be eligible perhaps. Just a thought anyhow, and i say 40 members so it doesn't exclude those smaller alliances that are good PvPers and deserve the right to compete.
When you think about it, this should solve the issue of people forming an alliance a few weeks before sign-ups and then banding together their mates from other corps/alliances just to make a crack team for the tournament - it's an alliance tournament, not a corp tournament. Alliances are formed of plural entities, not one corporation or one person, and 40 members is around a healthy corp-size, so it stands to reason that above that number assumes there is more than one corp involved and is supposedly a genuine alliance.
Anyway, good luck to everyone this year and make the most of it! I have fond memories of the 5th and hope you enjoy competing in this one just as much.  |